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Gracie
Loving the outfit today, Sam.
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Sam
Thank you. I knitted my leg warmers myself.
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Gracie
Impressive.
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Sam
With my teeth.
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Gracie
Okay, great. Is there a reason why you dressed in the subtle colours and accessories of the 80s?
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Sam
I would've thought it was obvious.
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Gracie
Humour me.
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Sam
We want to get into the mindset of our guest today. Right?
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Gracie
Correct.
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Sam
A person who has worked in the same job since he was very young.
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Gracie
Right.
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Sam
And when he was in his youth, this is what he would have worn. It's a type of method acting. It helps me tap into the life of our guest. When he started out, I wonder if he likes T’Pau.
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Gracie
I have no where to go with that. Anyhow, let's focus, shall we? I think we need to go into the interview with some knowledge and awareness of what his actual job is. So I've brought along the necessary tools.
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Sam
Oh. Good idea. What do you want me to do?
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Gracie
You can have made the paper on it.
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Sam
Ready?
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Gracie
Yep. Think so? Hand me the paper. Here we go.
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Sam
Is that it? Operating a hole punch.
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Gracie
I don't think we should play it down too much. I mean, it's a serious skill. One false move, and all those tiny punch bits of paper could fall on the floor and make a terrible mess.
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Sam
True.
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Gracie
And you know, when it says on medication not to operate heavy machinery. Yeah. Oh, you lock it in. This is not heavy machinery. It's just a hole punch.
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Sam
Do you think we may have misunderstood what his job is?
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Gracie
Yeah. I think we have a lot to learn. And we can only learn from the man himself. Let's go find him and chat about it.
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Sam
I can keep my leg warmers. Right.
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Sam
Talking laugh while on the run. Sweat it out. You have some fun.
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Sam
Heart beats pumping.
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Unknown
Minus play laughing loud, braking through the fear. Check your pulse, take a beat, side by side even in the heat. One heart, one mind, walking with Him.
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Sam
Stay on track, Pulse Check In. Pulse check in. Now our last guest we had, was Doctor Joshua Jones talking about the heart. But this guest we've got for you today is all heart.
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Gracie
Absolutely correct.
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Sam
Yes. Me and Gracie have known this guest for a very long time.
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Carlos
Long time?
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Sam
Yeah. So welcome to the podcast. How are you doing?
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Carlos
I'm very well. All the better for seeing you, too.
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Gracie
We should tell our listeners, three of them, that. Yes. Your name is Carlos.
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Carlos
It is not.
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Gracie
That they should not be surprised that you haven't got an exotic accent, because actually, your name is Carl. We should maybe make that clear. We call you Carlos. Totally.
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Sam
Do you mind? Just call this card. Call and you call us.
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Carlos
No, but I am one for not using a full name.
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Gracie
He is like my daughter.
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Carlos
I will call her Jessica. Everybody else calls a Jess. My wife Corrine, everybody else calls her Coz. But I say no, I don't, but people call me many, many things. Carlos is a nice thing to say.
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Gracie
So have you goy any other nickname that we don't know about?
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Sam
Oh, yeah.
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Carlos
No. You over there. Boy, I know I haven't. I think with the name Carl, you can't really show it. You can't shorten it unless you call me C or Ca.
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Gracie
Thats true.
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Sam
Yeah. Oh.
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Carlos
Oh. So, Carlos. No.
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Sam
So we need to make it longer instead. So Carlos, you’re all heart like we’ve said. Yeah, yeah. So who who have you got a heart for?
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Carlos
I've got a heart for lots of people. For people getting to know Jesus. Especially young people. I think because they've got so much ahead than they can give and stuff. And the earlier we get to know Jesus that the better. As far as I'm concerned. And then you can help mould our lives. But I've also got a passion for older people as well.
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Carlos
I'm getting there quite quickly, but like because of, I suppose, being with people, I've got a real heart for 70s and 80s as well. I love people in between as well. I just want to point that out, you know, I'm not sure I've got, but yeah, a real sort of passion. But for those, those particular ages, I think.
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Gracie
Could do this is a really good question. This one part of our planet, when you said that you've got a heart for it, was it that younger age group? Yeah. Yeah. And 20 ones. Yeah. Do you think that's because for you, that was a significant age for you or something happened there where you just saw. Hang on.
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Gracie
Yeah. Yeah. You you can correlate to that. And then you that's what you've got a heartful or nothing else.
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Carlos
Definitely. So when, when I was younger I had an interesting sort of teenage, time being put up in church all my life, but I sort of just went to church more like a social club. All my friends went there. I did lots of different things and stuff, but during that period I could have gone completely different ways, and a lot of my friends at the time went different ways away from God and stuff.
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Carlos
But there were people that I believe were placed in my life at that time who he really didn't dismiss me. Well, I think some of the people did, and they had a real impact on my life and still do today, even though they probably don't realise, and I suppose that I was really set with me. And as I've got older, I find that I've been able to use maybe some of the experiences that I had to sort of just chat it through with, with those particular ages, you know, sort of mid 20s and unders, and sort of been able to relate to some of the what they're going through and use maybe some
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Carlos
of my experiences to sort of help them, because I think it's a it's a time when we sort of we're moulded throughout our lives. But I do believe that at that particular time you really start to push into adulthood. And, and it's just so important to have people around you that, that can just help you, help you, maybe guide you a little bit.
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Carlos
And, and so I've just got a real, I don't know, connection to that. I think because of, because of maybe people speaking into my life.
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Gracie
Yeah. And I think what inspires me when I, you know, I've had the privilege of seeing you get along, some people of that age group and been in situations where I've kind of seen you share your heart with others and I, I hope this doesn't come across as in any way offensive but you. So you are brilliant with those who you don't run away from the difficult people.
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Gracie
You you kind of go to the people that you that sometimes are on the edges and the on the fringe kind of thing. If they're a little, if they're a bit, I don't know, an aggressive or, or they're a bit confrontational or, you know, if that life is difficult, you don't run away from that. You, your, your heart is to go and, be alongside them.
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Gracie
So, yeah, it's an observation rather than.
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Carlos
A thank you.
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Carlos
To me. I just think there's so much stuff where people are told, not behave in the right way or they're not doing the right thing, but none of us know what's going on, you know, in, in families and situations and stuff. And each of us, loved individually by God, the same way he loves everybody. And I think sometimes we just judge people for who they are and what they do.
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Carlos
But no, I, I, I do agree, I suppose a lot of it plays into also the fact that somebody told me recently, actually, when are you going to grow up? And I thought I was, I was a little bit I'm not offended by anything really, but I also I'm not very tall anyway, so I'm not going to do any, any, any larger.
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Carlos
But actually I am who I am.
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Gracie
Yeah. I think it's a great compliment. Someone says, when you going to grow up?
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Sam
Yeah.
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Carlos
People like you and me, you and me, but we're not going to grow any.
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Gracie
And it's not going to, we're not going to get taller. But also, you know, embrace the child like I reckon.
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Carlos
Yeah I agree.
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Sam
Yeah. Yeah. I think you've actually succeeded there by someone saying that that's a success. Well then is it.
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Gracie
Yeah. I'm fine. I'm out of it. I as a tattoo, I'm trying to work out what it is going to be. I ain't never going to grow up. I think I might, I thought.
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Carlos
Yeah, I keep forgetting to get a tattoo. Maybe. Maybe when I get 60. I said, this is my doing at 60.
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Gracie
This could be a whole new segment. If you're going to get a tattoo, what would it be?
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Sam
Oh, yeah.
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Carlos
Well what would you put? What would you get me? Yeah, both of you.
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Gracie
I would either have a Victoria Wood file. I'm putting it my arm. I, I know exactly where it's going to go. The quote would be there a hand in the skirting board.
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Carlos
On my days
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Gracie
I might just have an arrow pointing up and say, this way up.
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Sam
Nice. Wow. I'm going to get a chicken. And with a quote next to it saying it's all chickens.
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Gracie
So it's.
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Sam
Chickens. I forgot to ask you some initial questions, so we're going to go back in time. Okay. Carlos, we always ask all of our guests as well. The second one, I forgot to ask you this. What is your motivation? The moment when you wake up a new day, what gets you going?
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Carlos
That. That's quite easy. So I've got a dog who is very on time for everything. I don't really need an alarm clock. Because I have a dog that sort of wakes up for 6:00, and, if I'm not out of bed, I can hear him at the bottom of the stairs, start shuffling. And, it's quite a large dog, and so I have to quickly get dressed, and then he's very much ready to take me on a walk at 6:00 in the morning.
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Carlos
So after about a mile, just over a mile, we've got a little bit of a routine. Believe you me, I'm fully, fully awake and fully ready to go. And actually, I'd never had a dog until I got Rolo and my son, who really encouraged me to get a dog, was always going to take him this morning walk.
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Carlos
I think he's done 1 in 5 and a half years, but it has really changed my life because I used to really sort of struggle to get up and to quickly shower and get to work. But now by the time I actually get in the car to go to work, I am fully woken up, especially when it's minus four as it was the other day.
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Carlos
Freezing cold. It does wake you up, but that's what gets me up in the morning.
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Sam
Nice. Apparently that was meant to be really good. Yeah, that's what I saw recently, the Erling Haaland Day in the life. And that's what he goes for. Woke early in the morning because there's something about the air.
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Gracie
They do say it. There's like any mental health stuff. They say the best thing you could do is as soon as you wake up is get to daylight as soon as possible.
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Carlos
Yeah.
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Gracie
And it, it switches on that bit of the brain that you needed to start up. So yeah. Good for your mental health.
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Sam
To be inside. Like can you open a window or, or just not.
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Gracie
Suggest going outside. It's like natural. Yeah. It's more of being out in it okay. Yeah.
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Carlos
Because like at 6:00 in the morning there's no daylight at the moment.
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Gracie
No, it's very dark.
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Carlos
Yeah it is, but Yeah. Now I think, I think you're absolutely right. And it does it really does get you going.
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Gracie
Are you aware that when you're taking the dog for a walk, are you thinking about anything? Or is it just a case of waking up on.
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Carlos
Yeah, I don't.
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Gracie
Think it at all at that. He doesn't, you know, go in the road or do you consciously have any conscious thoughts?
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Carlos
No, I do, and it's usually about halfway through when I'm sort of not to be compos mentis at that point and start to wake up. And. Yeah, and I do I start to think about the day and rather than just quickly rushing and getting in a car, sort of like prepping a little bit, thinking about what's coming up in the day.
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Carlos
And it's not even just going to work because he still wakes up for the weekend at the same time, get to thinking about like, what the day is and what's going on. So yeah, yes, it does really help me.
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Sam
What is something that has made you smile recently?
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Carlos
There's a lot of things that make me smile and I can't. I don't know if I can say things. Some things, but no, I know that something that has made me smile recently. Well, that actually in the last week. So I found a bag of wigs on top of my back of my wardrobe. Now I think you probably know me.
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Carlos
People are listening to this thinking, what the heck are you going back to talk about? But actually, I quite enjoy getting into character. I used to. I don't do so much now. And when I saw this back of wigs, it just made me smile because it reminds me of some of the things that that have happened whilst wearing those wigs.
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Carlos
So yeah, that might be why I'm.
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Gracie
To please tell me you kept the wigs.
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Carlos
And they're in the top of my wardrobe. Yeah, all of that.
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Gracie
You saying all of them? How many would you say?
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Carlos
I've probably got about 6 or 7. I would say.
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Gracie
That's a good that's a good reason.
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Carlos
But yeah. And and you can use them for different characters.
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Gracie
Yeah.
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Carlos
You know, I but,
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Sam
Can I just ask a clarifying question for our listeners when you say get into character.
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Carlos
There's been many characters, different, different types of characters.
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Sam
For what what was.
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Carlos
The funniest one ever? And because I could take up the whole podcast talking about my wigs. The funniest. Whenever we, I think we were at summer school. And in fact, so you were you were on the panel. We did, Britain's Got Talent type thing, and we did a judging thing, and I dressed up. I it was a little bit of a I don't quite know what I became, but it was a bit of a crossover with Johnny Depp's Pirates of the Caribbean come something else.
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Carlos
Anyway, I had this big wig on, but sort of like had the sort of dreadlock pirate type things hanging down. And then I, I there's just weird stuff happened. Gracie I know was on the panel and she had a broken leg or something or but then determined by broken leg. So anyway, so I looked at this bag anyway, and these memories started coming out that were fun times.
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Gracie
I well, I think it's a hint I put them back upon your wardrobe.
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Carlos
I'm not like I wore them for a long time now. It's been.
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Gracie
A few. Might be time.
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Carlos
Now, I don't know.
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Sam
So you mentioned summer schools and indeed you have done millions of summer schools in your life. Yeah.
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Carlos
Thank you. I think you've been to a few of them.
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Sam
I think you were doing summer school, summer schools for those who aren't Salvation Army listeners and is a summer camp for, young people. Yeah. To come and learn about Jesus and learn about God and do various activities, for a week sleeping.
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Carlos
Over, spot on.
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Sam
And I think me growing up, I started going to summer school, and I think you were on staff. Kyle, about. I feel like you've been doing them since before I was both.
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Carlos
Yeah, possibly. I think I started doing them for staff, 95.
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Gracie
And so it's only 30 years then, just like hardly any.
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Carlos
Not very long.
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Sam
So my question is, how do you keep it fresh and new and keep it beating? Keep the passion up?
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Carlos
Well, I suppose because like I suppose most like the age that comes in, mate, I've got this heart for that, that sort of age that, that, that certainly helps. And it's saying people like yourself, I'm going to bash you, you know, but you seem people like yourself, like maybe in a small way, helping equip yourself and giving you that space just to see what God can do.
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Carlos
And he just does do some amazing things. And then I, just seeing so many people like and not because of summer school, but I just think that's a good space just to sort of moved on to just, God do amazing things through. And he's just doing amazing things and that's what keeps me going. And it's good in a way, because I've moved on to maybe a more serious role within the school, like where after I can't really like try and organise things, but it's kept me fresh in a way that I'm, I'm trying to, well, not me, but my wife, who sort of really runs it is, which is trying to give space for
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Carlos
young people just to, to be and then just to bring other staff members on now or a little bit closer to their age, just to be able to basically let them know that they're love. And God really, really does love them and that they're amazing and that God can do so much. And so we're trying to just see what's relevant for them.
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Carlos
So we give them lots of different opportunities to do lots of different things. And I think that's it really is just allowing God to sort of run the school. And we're just instruments for him. And to be part of it is is a privilege. And they're not just words. It's something I really, really mean that that's that's so cool to me.
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Gracie
And I think the freshness as well is also grown out of the fact that the summer schools that you're involved in are based on relationship. It's not based on very.
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Carlos
Much the.
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Gracie
Traditional, programme, but I think it because you pursue summer school in its purest form of sharing about Jesus, that's the main thing, isn't it? And that is clearly the heart of what summer school is, but also the heart of who you are as a person. You want to share Jesus with as many individuals as possible and yeah, 100%.
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Carlos
And that's why I think we're fortunate that families and and churches and ultimately God sends these people to this place, you know, because they could go anywhere. And you know, it still amazes me that the people who are like 20, 23, 24, 25 want to come to a summer camp of the Salvation Army. And yeah, they do. And I'm just really excited.
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Carlos
Like, now we're starting to think about next year and just really excited about about what what's going to be next year because every year is different and stuff. But, you two guys as well, you've played a huge part and I embarrassing you both with the with where the school's gone. So I'll just leave that at that.
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Sam
Well, Gracie was on staff and I was, I was, I was a young lad as well, attending summer school at the summer school that Carl and Gracie were both part of running. I did Grace's drama option, and she was the first person to ever get to sing.
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Carlos
Wow.
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Sam
Or talk on stage.
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Carlos
Oh wow. It's your full.
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Noises
Eyes.
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Sam
The other day, this oh.
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Carlos
My.
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Sam
God, it written the scripts. She always. She writes the scripts. All are psyllium trolls, as you might have guessed. But she'd written the script and it was very silly. And I was part of a four part boy band called The Cheesy Strings. I remember that I bought my daughter some cheesy strings cheese strings the other day and started singing the song.
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Sam
She's like, what do you.
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Noises
Oh gosh.
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Gracie
Still in there? It's still in.
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Noises
Oh, fabulous.
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Gracie
From what I remember, you opened up the summer school with, Holby City the musical.
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Sam
Yes.
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Gracie
That was wonderful.
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Sam
See? Yeah.
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Carlos
Wow.
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Gracie
I never look back.
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Sam
So they get a little, little into, like.
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Gracie
I was going to ask. Sorry. Back to summer school. Do you think they'll ever be a point? And what were you. What are you listening out for? Yeah. To say okay. It's not this year. Yeah.
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Carlos
That's that's that's really interesting. Do you know what I think every year I go through that like because my wife, she's the duo. And so a couple of years ago, before she became the DUI, the divisional youth officer, we've seen a lot of people come and go and, and felt, you know, I was thinking like, is it time and stuff?
00:19:39:13 - 00:20:03:06
Carlos
And then Corey was given this opportunity to do this, which was really, really unexpected. And just they wanted me to carry on and sort of just help a little, you know, help, help sort the continuity. It's, you know, we're fortunate to be given that opportunity. And I think there's obviously going to come a time when that that that's going to that's going to stop.
00:20:03:06 - 00:20:22:24
Carlos
But it's then what what's next. But I think got got already and had scenes with me about other things as well. And you know, it's a great week in the year. It's a fantastic week and there's a lot of prep involved, but there's also another 51 weeks of the year where lot of stuff wants us to do lots of other things as well.
00:20:23:01 - 00:20:41:13
Carlos
And, you know, become the time when, when, when it's right, just for me and main current to step down and and to the I'll take it on, I'll sit back and, hopefully just encourage from the sidelines and then see what God wants us to do next.
00:20:41:15 - 00:20:42:16
Gracie
You'll definitely know.
00:20:42:16 - 00:20:44:00
Carlos
Yeah, I think so.
00:20:44:02 - 00:20:45:16
Gracie
Yeah, definitely. No, I think so.
00:20:45:16 - 00:21:01:11
Carlos
And I think it's like I used to look after all the seniors for many years and, and stuff, but I felt at that time I felt that time had come and gone because I thought they needed to be more relevant. And then the opportunity can come to direct the school. And I felt I could sit a little bit more in the background, maybe encourage a little bit more.
00:21:01:11 - 00:21:10:02
Carlos
And and that felt right as well. So I think God got to prompt us a little bit, doesn't he, when it's time to move and when things aren't right, you sort of know.
00:21:10:03 - 00:21:38:10
Sam
I think I feel like whenever I speak to you, you're somebody that really listens to God and wants to do God's will in your life. And, and I very much admire that. And I'm going to skip a couple of questions now. We'll put a pin in some summer school for a minute. We'll come back to that later. But for your job, where you earn money and make a living and you've been in the same job for a long time, and I've only ever had little snippets of what you do.
00:21:38:12 - 00:21:43:05
Sam
So the question is, what's kept you there all this time? And secondly, oh, firstly, what do you do?
00:21:43:10 - 00:21:46:12
Carlos
Okay, so I'm a I'm a.
00:21:46:14 - 00:21:50:23
Gracie
Can I just stop you here, have an ear. Yeah. How long have I know, Nico.
00:21:51:00 - 00:21:53:12
Carlos
Long time.
00:21:53:14 - 00:21:57:23
Gracie
And yes. I still don't know. I don't even think you know.
00:21:57:23 - 00:22:00:01
Carlos
Listen, you've got a lesson. No.
00:22:00:03 - 00:22:09:03
Gracie
I've been in the circus. I've been in a circus. And you've naturally and said. See, that was. Have my company made that? But I do not know what you do.
00:22:09:06 - 00:22:09:23
Carlos
Okay.
00:22:10:00 - 00:22:10:15
Gracie
So this is.
00:22:10:15 - 00:22:11:01
Carlos
Okay.
00:22:11:03 - 00:22:11:19
Gracie
Big moment.
00:22:11:19 - 00:22:19:09
Carlos
I'm not going to tell you what what we then do. I'll tell you what I do want me to know what I do you to know what the company does.
00:22:19:11 - 00:22:22:08
Gracie
What you do in your company. Okay. That does what?
00:22:22:08 - 00:22:29:20
Carlos
Okay. So, let's put it simply, we put holes in things.
00:22:29:22 - 00:22:31:10
Gracie
Yeah.
00:22:31:12 - 00:22:45:16
Carlos
That is so. So, yeah. So we we, we cut out some things and we form things, so. So let's just say we produce sky satellite dishes. You know what those are?
00:22:45:18 - 00:22:46:04
Gracie
Yes.
00:22:46:04 - 00:22:48:06
Carlos
This is on the side of the house and they've got holes in.
00:22:48:06 - 00:22:54:12
Sam
And you put the dishes. Yeah. So every satellite dish that people have on their side of the house use.
00:22:54:12 - 00:22:57:03
Carlos
85%, have been bought, have been made by us.
00:22:57:03 - 00:23:01:07
Sam
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you ever been the person with the hole punch?
00:23:01:09 - 00:23:04:15
Carlos
No, no, I'm not trusted to do that.
00:23:04:17 - 00:23:05:04
Sam
Okay.
00:23:05:04 - 00:23:05:22
Gracie
Do you ever be.
00:23:05:22 - 00:23:32:16
Carlos
No. I thought, look, you know, I'm not very practical, but. Okay, let's let's put this out there. My wife describes his head in the clouds, so I. I'm an ideas person. I struggle then to do the practical side. Like I'm terrible with, like, decorating, you know, things like that. So there's no way on earth anybody in my business, she's going to let me, some of the some of our machines are like two, £3 million worth of machinery.
00:23:32:18 - 00:23:38:12
Carlos
And the tools that stick the holes in are like 30, 40, 50 grand a time. So there's not.
00:23:38:12 - 00:23:40:15
Gracie
An expensive hole punch at.
00:23:40:17 - 00:23:49:02
Carlos
92. Even going to let me press a button like, the whole thing up. Now, I've never actually put a hole in any of the things I've done.
00:23:49:04 - 00:23:53:02
Gracie
Am I right in thinking you've done some in front of a car?
00:23:53:04 - 00:23:57:17
Carlos
Yeah, I can't tell chat. I can't tell you which one to do under NDA.
00:23:57:18 - 00:24:03:10
Gracie
So, what the cars. And did you do some, like, barriers at Waitrose or.
00:24:03:12 - 00:24:07:03
Carlos
Possibly again, I can't, I cannot say that was.
00:24:07:03 - 00:24:07:23
Gracie
You'd have to kill us.
00:24:07:23 - 00:24:08:16
Carlos
Yeah, possibly.
00:24:08:21 - 00:24:12:22
Sam
Basically if we stick something with a hole in it.
00:24:12:24 - 00:24:14:08
Carlos
Yeah. Exactly.
00:24:14:10 - 00:24:14:23
Sam
Yeah.
00:24:15:00 - 00:24:23:11
Carlos
Exactly. Failing tiles or minor things. Yeah. So what's kept me there? Yeah. It's very varied. Again, lots of different industries.
00:24:23:13 - 00:24:30:06
Gracie
Can I pause you? Yeah. Backtrack. What's kept me that before that? What got you there? How did you end up?
00:24:30:08 - 00:24:50:16
Carlos
Are you always wanted to be an air traffic controller? But I don't think I was intelligent enough. I'd have been. I love that, but honestly, it's something I'm really wanting to do. I got, like, I used to fly for all the information and stuff and then realised you got to be quite really intelligent to do that. And so I just didn't happen.
00:24:50:21 - 00:25:06:02
Carlos
So anyway, so I ended up doing like a business, HMD type course and yeah. Then like for a couple of jobs, it was fortunate this was like an apprenticeship thing, but it's an established company and I got it.
00:25:06:04 - 00:25:18:05
Sam
So you said you were an apprentice, so you must have developed some skills, knowledge from others around you. Yeah, but who would you like to be an apprentice to or spend time with and learn from? Fact?
00:25:18:10 - 00:25:22:12
Carlos
There's some amazing people. Steven Bartlett, you know, Steven Bartlett.
00:25:22:14 - 00:25:24:05
Gracie
Yeah. Diary of a C. Yeah.
00:25:24:06 - 00:25:47:11
Carlos
Dragons den man. Yeah. He's got he's amazing. Right? You look at his life and how, you know, he dropped out of uni and he then sent this diary of a CEO up and took off. You know, the time the the the podcast and all that was sort of like blowing up and stuff. But he, he has such a passion for like entrepreneurial shit, if that's the right word.
00:25:47:11 - 00:26:08:21
Carlos
But he's, he's just got this drive like an this passion to keep doing different things. And you can it's like you can see into the future. But because whatever he seems to touch turns to literally gold and but he's just, he just speaks like normally now like a lot of business people, they're like, I was listening to the budget on my days.
00:26:08:21 - 00:26:30:10
Carlos
I didn't understand a lot of what was said. I just had to switch it off in the end because it just I just thought, what are you on about? Just talk sense to me. He talk sense. He speaks in a way that I'm totally engaged with, and I just love to go and spend a week with him and just see how he goes about things and, and pick up sort of skills and stuff.
00:26:30:15 - 00:26:32:09
Carlos
But yeah.
00:26:32:11 - 00:26:43:01
Gracie
He's really good as well. Getting people to work to their full potential is really good at that as yeah. Isn't it about. Yeah. Seeing people and.
00:26:43:03 - 00:26:44:01
Carlos
Oh yeah, he yeah.
00:26:44:02 - 00:26:46:00
Gracie
The phrase exactly how he's.
00:26:46:00 - 00:27:09:06
Carlos
Doing it on the day and and stuff. I feel like he'll take on a project that others that just massively dismisses dismiss because he sees he seems to to take people who have a passion. I think that's his first foremost thing I don't think would take anything on unless that person's got that real passion and drive to see something succeed, and that really hits in a chord with me.
00:27:09:06 - 00:27:12:11
Carlos
And I think, you know, just we should see more people would do that.
00:27:12:12 - 00:27:27:22
Sam
Do you think do you think I mean, I don't know, how does he have the ability to see people's passions like you might be passionate about something but not know your passionate about it or not be able to share quite how passionate you are and or eloquently enough.
00:27:27:24 - 00:27:55:20
Carlos
Yeah, yeah, I I'm like that, though I'm not very well spoken in a sense, not very well spoken. People last minute before like why I've and I digress. Like up the food chain really in respect, I think a lot of it comes to do with the fact that I've maybe some times in the world that I work in, you've got to speak in a certain way, and it's not so much about speaking from the heart, it's more about being methodical and astute.
00:27:55:20 - 00:28:15:22
Carlos
And I think he's broken. He's breaking the mould with that, because I think all of us have got passion within us. All of us have got that thing. It's about then how we how we sort of can tap into that and show it in a way that actually, you know, is all of us aren't lying to all of us can't, you know, sort of shout it out from the rooftops and stuff.
00:28:15:24 - 00:28:38:05
Carlos
But actually, it might be a very quiet passion, but you, you know, that that when that person's got passion, you just know, like, oh, say, Sam, you you're a lot quieter than probably me and Gracie, but you would. You are driven and you've got a real quiet, burning passion. And that's very evident. Just wanting to see people meet Jesus.
00:28:38:07 - 00:29:01:03
Carlos
And I think you do it through through your music, through your words, through this. And to see like you engage in stuff like this and finding an avenue to sort of channel that, then outwardly I think is, is just amazing. And I think God's got something for all of us to do in that sort of way. It's just finding out what that is.
00:29:01:05 - 00:29:04:13
Carlos
Yeah. And I think he'll find that he'll he'll create a force.
00:29:04:15 - 00:29:20:11
Gracie
Also, I think there's something important to pull out. The fact that it's not about striving to do what you're passionate for. What I see, both of you, is you've got, you know, you're open. You remain open to, you know, ways to try things or.
00:29:20:11 - 00:29:21:02
Carlos
I think.
00:29:21:02 - 00:29:21:24
Gracie
So I used to.
00:29:21:24 - 00:29:42:12
Carlos
Have I think so, Grace, but I would say as well that sometimes I step back from maybe doing, pushing a little bit more and I look back and that sort of a point where I think I'm frustrated because I want to do more, but I don't quite know what to do at the moment, and I don't know whether that's me or that's just me wanting to just take control or what have you.
00:29:42:12 - 00:29:49:12
Carlos
But I have been open. But I think I've also researched a little bit as well.
00:29:49:14 - 00:30:10:08
Gracie
So I'm gonna ask you another question. Come serious. Well, okay. If you were in a conversation with a younger person. Yeah. I'm not gonna say young person, Carl. Because to me, you're you're still young. So if you were to if you were in conversation with a younger person. Right. And at the beginning of their work in life, what positives would you say?
00:30:10:10 - 00:30:15:15
Gracie
Oh, they're to committing to and working for an employer long term.
00:30:15:17 - 00:30:41:02
Carlos
I think wow. I think you've got to be committed. I think you've got a set some goals for where you want to be, what you want to do. I think you've got to be prepared to listen. I think that's really, really important because you sometimes learn by just listening about what what's going on around you. I, I very much, when I started, got involved with people who've been in the business for a long time.
00:30:41:08 - 00:31:02:02
Carlos
I tried to tap into them to try and understand what I needed to know in many ways, because I think sometimes you we've had it. You have people come in, think they they think of that coming and make a difference straight away. And, you know, maybe room before they can walk. And so I think I think it's just really important for commitment.
00:31:02:04 - 00:31:28:21
Carlos
It's okay to fail and be prepared for that. Be prepared to get things wrong and acknowledge when you do that. Don't try and make excuses and just a willingness to want to learn and be part of a team that is that to me is critical. If you if you work with other people, try and see how those people are, how you do that, how do they react, how are they going to be where can I fit into that?
00:31:28:23 - 00:31:32:23
Carlos
And you also then learn how to maybe get the best out of each other as well.
00:31:33:00 - 00:31:57:08
Gracie
I think if you could edit the question and the answer would be the same. So the question could be as somebody who's new in space or joining a summer school team, the answer you gave would be the same to that. Those two questions are about a willingness to learn it. Don't worry about getting it wrong. It's the answer to a lot of other questions, not just that one.
00:31:57:11 - 00:32:05:05
Gracie
Yeah. And I think that's quite helpful approach to life, not just work. Yeah. They're all different. Are safe to.
00:32:05:06 - 00:32:05:16
Carlos
Different.
00:32:05:18 - 00:32:06:02
Gracie
Yeah.
00:32:06:02 - 00:32:25:19
Sam
I feel like. Yeah. Me personally, growing up, one of the things that has held me back the most is the fear of getting it wrong and the fear of looking silly, whereas once you realise everybody's all all trying to look like they know what the dude. And yeah, you're comfortable enough to admit that you don't know what you do, don't ask for help and people suffer around you.
00:32:25:19 - 00:32:32:00
Sam
So, yeah, go into things with confidence, but also call oh yes, that you're okay to get it wrong.
00:32:32:02 - 00:32:35:00
Carlos
Absolutely. It's okay. Absolutely. Yeah.
00:32:35:01 - 00:32:36:20
Sam
Exactly that. Yeah.
00:32:36:22 - 00:32:40:11
Gracie
Yeah. I was listening to a podcast with Tom Allen.
00:32:40:11 - 00:32:41:01
Carlos
Oh I love him.
00:32:41:01 - 00:32:58:13
Gracie
And he was. Yeah. He was talking about his he wasn't very good at maths when he was younger. I can relate to that. He didn't like it. He wasn't any good at it, but it was one of those subjects he had to do. It's a cool subject. And his dad used to give him this advice of do everything with a good heart.
00:32:58:15 - 00:32:59:22
Gracie
Yeah. So he just.
00:32:59:22 - 00:33:00:20
Carlos
Absolutely.
00:33:01:00 - 00:33:10:19
Gracie
You know, you've got to do it. Do it with a good heart. Yeah. And then you'll, you'll, you'll get through. Yeah. And it's I've taught that back a number of times. Yeah. If you do things with a good heart and it comes good in you.
00:33:10:19 - 00:33:14:10
Carlos
Yeah, very much so. That's really good advice.
00:33:14:12 - 00:33:20:22
Gracie
Can you share a significant moment where your faith has been deepened through, relationship or situation at work?
00:33:20:22 - 00:33:24:16
Carlos
Well, I've been there a while, so there's been a few.
00:33:24:18 - 00:33:25:17
Gracie
That's good.
00:33:25:19 - 00:33:46:00
Carlos
Yeah. It's interesting because of the people I work with of actually, we've been there all of us for a long time. So we know each other quite well for the good times. Maybe the not so good times. And what I have found is that there was certainly a time when, when a colleague of mine had a bereavement and it was really difficult.
00:33:46:02 - 00:34:07:06
Carlos
I found, I find this quite difficult because when people I sort of want to talk to you because they maybe see something that they can be themselves with. And I kind of not like, like especially in, in some of the environment that we work in, you're not putting a facade on. But yeah, you sort of like you stop yourself being vulnerable in many ways.
00:34:07:11 - 00:34:31:15
Carlos
But then this one person like, hey, he won't even work for me. And wanting to just be vulnerable and wanted to just to say what was, what was needed to be said and for that, for that person at that time. And I find that a real privilege to that they maybe could be like that with me. And then we sort of just worked it through.
00:34:31:18 - 00:34:56:14
Carlos
And there's been a few times where it's usually in, in times of need, I find that that happens. And also, but also a little bit of a moral compass because I, I work in an open plan office, it can be a quite, you know, lots and lots of different things happening. And I do sometimes reminder maybe a tiny little bit too far.
00:34:56:16 - 00:35:18:22
Carlos
And there are people they're okay with it. And, and I feel that's really quite important as well. I think you can all have a bit of fun and stuff, but maybe we also need to think about who we are. And you know, we're all working together. And hopefully that also will leave a bit of a, a point maybe that I'll think about in how they talk and how they act.
00:35:18:24 - 00:35:23:05
Sam
And I guess you come at it at those difficult situations with a lot of grace as well.
00:35:23:07 - 00:35:40:00
Carlos
Yeah. I can't be anything but myself. And I try not to be anything but myself. And you just have to show that. And, you know, especially when you work at a place for a long time, you know, or you do something for a long period of time, you. Yeah, you know, your boundaries come down and all of that.
00:35:40:00 - 00:35:41:04
Carlos
And you just who you are.
00:35:41:07 - 00:36:03:09
Gracie
I think there's a lot of, power as well behind the fact that, I'll say anyone really, we kind of underestimate how much we have, the potential we have to reflect who God is just by being us. And that can go the it can be a negative thing sometimes, because people are really looking to see if you're going to make up or whatever.
00:36:03:11 - 00:36:21:05
Gracie
Yeah. But just by I think when you said about, you know, people come to you to spend time in need or whatever, but they obviously see something in you, not just in what you say, but the way that you live and the way that you respond and interact. There's something there that is evident.
00:36:21:06 - 00:36:24:05
Carlos
Yeah. It becomes like a family and it's good.
00:36:24:07 - 00:36:34:10
Sam
So talk a bit about how you care for other people and their failings, but checking in with you, how are you feeling today?
00:36:34:12 - 00:36:52:06
Carlos
Yeah, physically I'm all right. I'm I'm running again at the moment, which is quite good. But I've got a problem with my thought. Right. And I really probably do need to go to the doctors, but they're very busy people. But I think it's got to a point for the last six months where it does her and stuff and it's not going away, so I need to get that sorted.
00:36:52:06 - 00:37:16:21
Carlos
But I feel physically okay and I need, I, you know, I feel all right. I think for my age, I wish I could, I wish I could run faster, I wish I could play football the way I used to play. But I mean, yeah, I feel I feel alright mentally. Yeah. I've had ups and downs over the last few years, but very stressed at one point and I struggled.
00:37:16:23 - 00:37:37:16
Carlos
But I'm alright with that at the moment. I think I'm okay. I'm just a bit frustrated. I think a little bit. I really, I'm searching to do more, which, can try. Well, not searching to do more, but, I just feel there's something more that I should be doing. I'm just trying to find out what that is at the moment.
00:37:37:18 - 00:37:41:12
Carlos
And I suppose I'm middling good where put in it. Samuel.
00:37:41:14 - 00:37:50:20
Sam
Mentally, I like that. I feel like, I feel like we're meddling a lot when someone says how you do meddling, I like that. Yeah, might take that on.
00:37:50:22 - 00:38:13:13
Carlos
I think so, and I think it's interesting, isn't it? Especially churchy people like you say, how are you? Oh, I'm fine, I'm here. Yeah. And never we we do some struggle sometimes, don't we, from being just same actually very good or actually I'm on top of the world. But it's hard, isn't it? Sometimes we can't always say what we, we really feel or we really, really want to say.
00:38:13:15 - 00:38:16:24
Carlos
I suppose it's humanity in us, really stops us.
00:38:17:01 - 00:38:24:21
Sam
I guess it's finding those people that you can truly share and to, yeah, express your feelings and just chat about it, work it through, like you said before.
00:38:24:22 - 00:38:46:14
Carlos
Yeah, I think so. And I and I'm really rubbish at that. If I'm, if I'm really honest, I don't have a great deal with people. I can do that way. Then I think that's, that's entirely my own fault. You know, I, I'm just really fortunate, I think in a way to have the relationship I do with my wife and, you know, she's my best friend and I'm really fortunate to have the opportunity to share with her.
00:38:46:14 - 00:39:05:00
Carlos
But I wish I had more people, I think, in my life that I could be that, but I think that's entirely my own, my own fault. I've struggled to be bold enough to sort of develop those friendships. Maybe that I wish I had done or have had and not really expanded.
00:39:05:05 - 00:39:05:19
Sam
Yes.
00:39:05:24 - 00:39:08:10
Gracie
They do exist. So because there are.
00:39:08:12 - 00:39:08:24
Sam
A.
00:39:08:24 - 00:39:11:02
Gracie
Group of people that you would be open with.
00:39:11:03 - 00:39:34:24
Carlos
Yeah, like, absolutely. But I wish I could like find somebody up sometimes and just go to the pub with them and just like have a soft drink. Obviously that's something I quite like to do. And maybe I've been really fortunate in my life to have people placed in my life that, you know, I've had sort of short bursts with and, you know, and that's something I'm so grateful for, being at a place that is God based.
00:39:35:01 - 00:39:49:14
Carlos
And people in my life at the right time, for the right purpose. And, I think it is food sometimes, you know, when we can be open and honest, where we can have the opportunity just to just let a little bit of air.
00:39:49:14 - 00:39:56:20
Sam
I yeah, I guess finding those people is also quite difficult sometimes because people's lives are so busy.
00:39:56:20 - 00:39:58:00
Carlos
Exactly.
00:39:58:02 - 00:40:04:12
Sam
Yeah. You don't want to be a burden on them. But yeah, you they probably feel the same way, you know.
00:40:04:14 - 00:40:09:21
Carlos
And and it's just taking that steps at times isn't it. Yeah. Where we go.
00:40:10:02 - 00:40:19:20
Gracie
So we do a little segment about what's keeping you on track in terms of, what's your favourite workout track that gets you.
00:40:19:22 - 00:40:21:02
Carlos
That gets the blood pumping?
00:40:21:06 - 00:40:23:16
Gracie
You get your energy going? Yeah, cause she had one.
00:40:23:16 - 00:40:25:19
Carlos
Track or multiple track, so.
00:40:25:21 - 00:40:27:21
Gracie
Just you can say whatever.
00:40:27:21 - 00:40:28:12
Sam
Last guess.
00:40:28:17 - 00:40:29:01
Gracie
And just.
00:40:29:01 - 00:40:37:04
Sam
Taste the entire catalogue of Apple Music. So if you could stick, if you could stick to one, that would be preferable. Okay. Right.
00:40:37:06 - 00:40:57:07
Carlos
Okay. There's. Yeah, there's one that's I always turn to it stands out and it doesn't go away. It's I will follow by U2 live version. The that is it's banging but it's it's just it stands the test of time and it gets me. It gets me to the finish line many times.
00:40:57:09 - 00:41:07:04
Gracie
But. And what is then you're guilty at the moment. Well it's not on there that you don't want anyone else to listen to us. Just give us one, okay? Because nobody.
00:41:07:04 - 00:41:08:05
Carlos
Nope. Okay.
00:41:08:07 - 00:41:11:04
Gracie
It's just between us. Okay.
00:41:11:06 - 00:41:12:09
Carlos
Iranian respect.
00:41:12:12 - 00:41:14:17
Gracie
No cow. That's not embarrassing.
00:41:14:19 - 00:41:31:08
Carlos
Well, for me, who's, like, a bit of a rocket person is. Oh, I know as I'm getting older, I am liking my sort of stuff. Also like bros. When will I be famous? Because I'm still. I'm still. Well, it's more embarrassing. But. Yeah. Is is Asia embarrassing enough?
00:41:31:11 - 00:41:35:04
Gracie
Well, it's not the worst we that Doctor Jones came out with a.
00:41:35:04 - 00:41:44:09
Sam
Lot Jones did was just not embarrassed by anything. He was like, he ruined the segment. Really.
00:41:44:11 - 00:41:49:11
Gracie
If you've seen Carlos the latest videos of Iranians on tour, he looks at.
00:41:49:11 - 00:41:50:20
Carlos
He looks a bit old in,
00:41:50:22 - 00:41:55:07
Gracie
He doesn't look like he's. You know, managing the endurance right now.
00:41:55:07 - 00:42:14:10
Sam
We've made Gracie, we've got this kit bag for life that. Oh. Like this. Add an item to, Doctor Jones added electrolyte tablets. Effervescent electrolyte tablets, that were very expensive. Yeah, they said we had to buy ourselves because he's very generous. What would you like to add to our kit bag? Right.
00:42:14:12 - 00:42:43:09
Carlos
This would be cheaper, right? This. And this is a good bit of ice. This. What, two pairs of socks. Now, let me explain my good pair of socks. I would say Danish endurance is a good one of the brands are available. But two pairs of socks. And why. There's two. Because sometimes when you're doing a lot of running or it's a hot day, you can get lots of blisters with one pair of socks if you have, especially if you haven't got a good pair of shoes.
00:42:43:11 - 00:43:06:13
Carlos
There's been a few walks I've done over my life, where we did it on charity walks and people have fallen by the wayside with big, big blisters because they didn't have a good pair of socks on. But if you put two pairs of socks on, you don't get blisters unless you've got really bad feet. So I will always have two pairs of socks in a bag if I run.
00:43:06:13 - 00:43:13:18
Carlos
I wear two pairs of socks. If I played football, if I wore two pairs of socks and I have no blisters, thanks ever.
00:43:13:20 - 00:43:14:20
Sam
You're going to add.
00:43:14:22 - 00:43:16:08
Gracie
You've run with two pairs of.
00:43:16:08 - 00:43:16:23
Sam
Socks on.
00:43:17:01 - 00:43:20:12
Carlos
Ten pair of socks, and then a good pair of socks. Always take.
00:43:20:14 - 00:43:25:00
Gracie
Two. Ever roll your socks down and create like a baby?
00:43:25:02 - 00:43:30:00
Carlos
I run short socks when I don't have long socks. Okay.
00:43:30:02 - 00:43:34:11
Sam
But yeah, that's a top tip we could give to you. Try long socks and rolled them like a doughnut.
00:43:34:13 - 00:43:39:16
Carlos
Then you get, oh, I might, I might do, but that wouldn't help with the blisters, would it? Unless you roll in the ivy.
00:43:39:18 - 00:43:41:21
Sam
It would help with the mentality of the run.
00:43:41:21 - 00:43:44:12
Carlos
Then it might. It might. Yeah.
00:43:44:14 - 00:43:46:04
Gracie
It'd be a lot for freer.
00:43:46:06 - 00:43:51:10
Sam
Yeah, but I thought you were going to put Wicks in the bag for the future. I thought, yeah.
00:43:51:12 - 00:43:58:00
Carlos
I don't think that that out of it could be advice. I honestly if to take pairs of.
00:43:58:02 - 00:43:58:23
Gracie
Socks.
00:43:58:23 - 00:44:02:05
Carlos
I don't know if it's like proven, but it works for me.
00:44:02:07 - 00:44:06:19
Sam
Before we do our game how can we pray for you? Co you mentioned about a bit of stress and struggles.
00:44:06:21 - 00:44:31:09
Carlos
Yeah. So I think so. I think a bit of clarity really maybe. And I say this a lot, I really try and when I'm struggling a little bit like trying out a bit of pace and, and you know, try and create a bit of quiet time and pace and I think that's, that's really important. So I think yeah, just clarity and pace, you know, and a busy, busy day.
00:44:31:11 - 00:44:36:02
Carlos
I think it's really important to to keep striving for that and make making that happen.
00:44:36:04 - 00:44:55:02
Gracie
Maybe if people are praying for you, if you would be okay with this, if we could ask people for they've got anything specific that they, I don't know, a bit Scripture or some words of encouragement that they want to share for you. It's like really helpful. We could encourage listeners to do that.
00:44:55:08 - 00:45:05:10
Sam
Yeah. Send them to the usual place. Email plexus at Salvation army.org Duke and we can pass those on. We'll put them in the comments or however you want to send it to us.
00:45:05:12 - 00:45:32:00
Gracie
So call us at the end of each episode. We like to, guests to participate in. Okay. Called three weeks ahead. There are no prizes. Oh, no. Don't we award chickens? So if you if you get it right, we'll award you relevant amount of chickens in a, in a relevant in that quality material. So you get a bronze chicken, silver gold.
00:45:32:00 - 00:45:42:13
Gracie
You get the idea. Nobody has won the diamond chicken yet, so this might be it. So it's, three points ahead. So it's to try and guess what we'll be talking about.
00:45:42:15 - 00:45:43:07
Carlos
On next.
00:45:43:12 - 00:46:00:12
Gracie
Episode. Yeah. Okay. You sound we're going to give you a single word or an object. Name of an object. And then we're going to give you a clue. Okay? Right now you can guess individually or you can wait till three. Right. Then make a guess. So we're going to give you all sound first.
00:46:00:15 - 00:46:02:18
Noises
Squeaking door sound
00:46:02:18 - 00:46:10:03
Carlos
Can you do that again?
00:46:10:05 - 00:46:11:17
Sam
I don't think so.
00:46:11:19 - 00:46:13:05
Gracie
Oh. Gosh.
00:46:13:05 - 00:46:16:02
Carlos
The creaky stairs. I don't know.
00:46:16:04 - 00:46:17:09
Gracie
So you're saying creaky says.
00:46:17:15 - 00:46:20:21
Sam
Okay, mine sounds like a dinosaur. I says.
00:46:20:23 - 00:46:24:03
Noises
ooooeeehhhhhh
00:46:24:05 - 00:46:26:20
Gracie
So you'll actually screen stairs, right?
00:46:26:22 - 00:46:29:20
Sam
Yeah, yeah. Not bad, not bad.
00:46:29:22 - 00:46:31:00
Gracie
Not bad. Okay.
00:46:31:02 - 00:46:35:04
Sam
So what my mind. What might that link to.
00:46:35:06 - 00:46:37:05
Gracie
So we're now going to give you a word or an object.
00:46:37:06 - 00:46:41:00
Sam
It's two two objects actually candles and calling. That's the two things.
00:46:41:02 - 00:46:43:07
Gracie
What candles and call linked.
00:46:43:12 - 00:46:48:02
Sam
Yeah yeah yeah they're quite heavily linked. If you can work out the link you'll get it.
00:46:48:02 - 00:46:55:07
Carlos
Colin's climbing the golden stairs. The glory.
00:46:55:09 - 00:46:56:13
Sam
So about that deep.
00:46:56:15 - 00:46:58:21
Noises
Inaudible noises
00:46:58:23 - 00:47:00:12
Gracie
He's on the stand next to heaven.
00:47:00:12 - 00:47:12:18
Sam
I kind of got it. My, my my wife listening will fully understand what that is. So if you're listening, do you think, Why why do you know it can't. Please. But it's on it, right? You know.
00:47:12:19 - 00:47:14:22
Gracie
So the third thing is a quote.
00:47:14:22 - 00:47:23:11
Sam
Yeah. Set the scene. You know, in your youth at a nightclub, trying to get in a go. See you. Oh, do I was that.
00:47:23:13 - 00:47:32:05
Gracie
Wow. So the bouncer is in the room? I don't know, let's go backwards. Can I see you? I'd. Candles. Colin.
00:47:32:07 - 00:47:33:22
Noises
eeeeeeeee.
00:47:33:24 - 00:47:45:07
Sam
I think people have found that when they're trying to think of the answer to this, it's better to just go with a generic. What else could the theme be that they're going to talk about? Like what part of life? Yeah, talk about.
00:47:45:09 - 00:47:47:02
Carlos
Light and darkness.
00:47:47:04 - 00:47:48:09
Sam
Oh, interest.
00:47:48:09 - 00:47:50:10
Gracie
So good shout.
00:47:50:12 - 00:47:50:16
Sam
But.
00:47:50:16 - 00:47:51:10
Gracie
Not correct.
00:47:51:10 - 00:47:52:24
Carlos
I tried it's about trying.
00:47:52:24 - 00:47:53:06
Gracie
Is I.
00:47:53:06 - 00:47:57:02
Sam
Because it is I mean it's not what the episode's about but yes.
00:47:57:08 - 00:48:00:21
Carlos
Okay. I gave it my best shot.
00:48:00:23 - 00:48:01:22
Sam
You did.
00:48:01:24 - 00:48:09:15
Gracie
Yeah you did. And as you talked about earlier, you've got to try since it doesn't always go back to fail. Yes. Fail to to.
00:48:09:16 - 00:48:29:10
Sam
Prepare. And remember, there will be clues going out on our Instagram page on the stories. So follow us at pulse. Check in. No spaces at pulse check in. Yeah. You'll see. I feel you on our beautiful faces. Click a follow. Follow along our stories. The clues along the way. See you there.
00:48:29:11 - 00:48:44:21
Carlos
Just before we finish. I just want to encourage both of you just to really go for it, because I think this is. This is both just so natural, you know, I just felt that was I was really quite worried about it. And you just make it really, really quite comfortable. It's like talking to two friends. So it's lovely.
00:48:44:21 - 00:48:50:01
Carlos
It's helped my mental momentum. Best thingy tonight. So it's been good actually.
00:48:50:01 - 00:48:52:01
Sam
That's the angel's check in. Checking with.
00:48:52:03 - 00:48:56:02
Carlos
Checking. Checking pulse. Yeah, yeah that's great.
00:48:56:04 - 00:48:57:00
Gracie
Thanks, Carl
00:48:57:02 - 00:48:59:04
Sam
Appreciate you coming on.
00:48:59:06 - 00:49:20:15
Sam
Talking life while on the run. Sweat out. You have some fun, heart beats pumping, minds is clear. laughing loud, breathing the feat. Check your pulse, take a beat, side by side even in the heat. One heart, one mind, walking with Him. Stay on track, Pulse Chickens.