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Hello and welcome to another episode of pulse. Check in. This is Gracie and this is Sam. How you doing, Sam? Not too bad. Not too bad. That's very English today. Yes. A middling, you know, middling. I think we'll get more into Y in a bit, I'm sure. Yeah, well, I talked about today, Gracie. Well, I think it's a good idea that we just, like, check in with each other.
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Yeah, I think that's a good thing to, like formal. Just relaxed. Yeah. I find we check in deeply with guests. Yeah. But we never we when we do it just the two of us, we've kind of got a half plan what we're going to talk about. And you never really check in deeply with each other. That is very true.
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So and also I think because you can get into the whole themes of what we're going to be talking about in each episode, the focus goes away from us checking in with each other. So yes. Who's checking?
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So you're doing middling. Where are you on the scale? Oh, well, I was at ease in last time. Was now, I think. Yeah. Do you want me to be really honest? Yep. I'll probably say Shenzen, Shenzhen. I'll see you. Bellamy's in, below my knees. Okay. Not. Not at the tip of my toes. Okay. Shins. Shinzon. Okay.
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I think that's the name of the takeaway, you know? Shinzon. Yeah. What does your takeaway serve, James? Going back to middle inner shinzon. I think maybe I'm below middling. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm saying. I'm not sure you should say that. Quotes in quotes in openly. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anyway, so you're you're you're openly openly about as well I'm shinzon.
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But yes. So you eat in the space of us talking in the last three minutes. It worries me that you've you've gone down. What. No, no I think level of where you're at. I think I've just in the space of talking I've become more aware of where I'm at. Yes. And the space I was talking, I'm probably got off a little bit to quite.
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Oh, this is a bit. This just came to my brain when you were talking about. I've just really recognised, like I said, Shinzon. I'm part of that shinzon is the fact that I've been on a loop with worry and anxiety, and I've tried this new thing this week, and this has worked to a point. So I've probably this is probably gone on for about two and a half weeks.
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Every day I've been at a how would I put it? I've been wired and not able to settle things going through my brain over and over and over again. And I it, it has disrupted everything's to sort of asleep. That doesn't take a lot anyway. Disrupted how I feel and function each day. But I've tried this new thing, and it might sound a bit weird where I try to interrupt the loop that's been going on in my brain.
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And the way I've done that is by recognising that I'm doing it. And so. Okay. The reason I tried this is I read something about neuro. So it's a neuroscientist on a platform called Substack. And they write in a way that I can think they're not they're not what's the word I need to put down very plainly and easily for me to understand it?
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Right. So this guy's really good at communicating because I'm a bit thick as what I'm trying to say. So I was reading this thing about, if you interrupt that loop, if you recognise what you're doing, it, come break it. It can stall it. So it means that you're taking a step away from it by going, oh, I'm worrying now.
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So you're not fixing. You're not fixing the worry. You're you're breaking the loop of worrying. And by saying I'm worrying, it disempowers that loop by recognising that I'm doing it. I've been able to go, okay, that's what I'm doing. You don't need to do that. Yeah. By recognising it and going and naming it. It's almost you take a step back from, from the process of what you're doing.
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And I've been trying. It's a bit like exercise. You know you build up don't you. You have to keep, keep doing it before you see the results. And that's what I've been doing. And I've tried that for the last five days. And at the start I was thinking oh yeah. All I'm doing there is naming it and nothing's happening, but I start to see the result of it.
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So today before I got into that continuous loop, I was able to recognise it. And it's not as frantic and it's not as ongoing. Yeah. And I guess more so in today's society as it becomes more normal to be aware of talking about things helps you more. Talking about things makes you worry about them less, which I think it's been an increasing realisation from society.
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So I'm not saying that as if it's a groundbreaking thing to say, but naming the things to yourself is powerful as well. Realising that you're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I was adding to the point. I think I was reiterating the point. Yeah. Maybe my point was we were aware of it. But do we do it.
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Do I do it. I don't think so. Because in order to talk about the thing that's worrying you, you have to recognise that it's we're in you. Yes. Which maybe I don't always do. Yeah. Well we don't always know. We go into a bit of auto pilot, don't we? Sometimes. And I think that's what. Where I'd come unstuck.
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Really after doing that for like two and a half weeks. It was starting to impact so many other things. But yeah just naming things and calling them out I guess. There's a lot of power in that. Yeah. Yeah. I think for me recently news that people listening to the podcast might know, might not know, probably know plexus salvation Army who I work for online church call in the summer will be closing which means that I don't know what I will be doing in terms of work at the moment.
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Which is tough. But the reason I mention that is people who know that and people who know me, a lot of them are asking the questions of what does that mean for me? And at the moment, I'm still going through the process of trying to work that out in terms of how I feel about it, in terms of practically, financially, all of the above.
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And people talking to me about it subconsciously.
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Will assume I'm feeling anxious or worried about it, which in my head I don't know if it's true. Does that make sense? Yeah. I don't know how I feel about it. Well, you're you're actually processing quite a lot in there all at the same time. So you're faced with the news of something that you've pulled all that time and energy and heart into action.
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You're pulling your energy into the whole okay. What's the consequence of that. Financially for my family. And how's that work. You're probably thinking about you're not probably you've said this is what you're thinking about what I'm going to do next. And I'm thinking in terms of plexus as a group of communities. Yeah. What does that mean for the people who we have, we are in community with and those projects that we're doing.
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Will they be ending? Will they be carrying on? Will they look different? Who knows? That's a lot for the Sunday worshipping community and the people who we do Bible studies and small group friends like we've mentioned previously on the podcast. What does that mean for them? Yeah. So in terms of you don't know how you feel, if you feel anxious about it.
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It's probably if you're too busy thinking about all those things. To know if you are anxious about it because it's almost like you're in like fight mode or not fight, that sounds aggressive, but that feeling of you're trying to answer some a lot of questions in there. To the point where yeah you ain't got time.
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To realise what. You anxious about it. Yeah. If you were anxious about it. What would you do about the anxiety. Do you think if you were anxious you would still be able to plan for future or have ideas for future. I mean with the ideas for the future, I've got this sense of peace. That God has a plan for this.
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Like, as devastated as I am about the closure of plexus and the repercussions of that. I also know that God has a plan and he's not finished with the work that we've been doing. He's not finished with me or the learning. Isn't that a song? If it isn't good, God's not finished with it. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And things will pan out for the better.
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And in order for that to pan out for the better. This process has to take place of hurt. So there is that peace that I have, but it doesn't make it any easier. It does make it easier, but it doesn't explain it. And there's just a lot of questions at the moment with no answers. My question about anxiety was a bit of a rubbish question, actually.
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It was difficult to answer. And then it just I phrased it incorrectly anyway. But it was a rubbish question. But even you then, I mean, I appreciate you might not be able to be as open and honest, but,
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That you feel a sense of peace and that God's not finished with the future of the work that's kind of been bedded down in plexus yet. He's not finished with this style of ministry in the Salvation Army. So do you. Do you feel a little bit like, let down or like it hasn't really been understood? Maybe there's a sense that, initially there was a there still is a hurt and an annoyance because looking back, you could always see how things could have turned out differently if different things were in place.
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And your mind always asks questions about reasoning and that you'll never get the answer for it, so it's not worth thinking about it, but your mind just do that anyway, doesn't it? And part of it is God will make it turn out better than we thought. And in order for God's purpose to come about, sometimes. He does it in or happens in strange ways.
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Does that make sense? Yeah. Yes. We have to let go of some stuff. We have to be brave enough to do that. Yeah. To trust. I also think what it shows is for you to be experienced in the sense of peace. And like a sense of faith, is. There's more to come. You've done that. Of what was like a reflection on the hurt.
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You haven't let the hurt.
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Of override God's peace. You've he held on to that. I mean you, you probably still feel some levels of hurt, but you're looking forward and it's providing you with peace. Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder, I see you haven't done that. If you hadn't acknowledged that there's hurt in it and there's pain in it. Whether you would be experiencing the sense of peace.
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No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah definitely. And I think that as we continue the journey of working out what will be, what will happen to plexus. It's funny doing this recording and doing a podcast about this when we are in the middle of it. There was yeah just speculation and it's funny doing it working out how I feel about it as well.
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It's a check in. It is a check in. There is. Yeah. Yeah. The thing you approach in I think, is it. So that line of the song about it is not good. God's not finished with it. Yeah. It's there's also that I've heard people preach about it. I don't know if it's taken out of context or what, but it does strike me that thing of all things work together for good.
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And that's why it's so if it's not good. God's not done with it yet. Yeah. So yeah. And there's the question of is this the end of my part to play in it becoming good. God's equally got a plan for the things that I've been working on and a plan to me. Do they align. Who knows.
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But being okay with that, I guess, because that's also a yeah, I get the sense that, you know, you're feeling responsible for others as well and that. But as in, you know, you got to think financially about your family. When people and the announcement went out that plexus was closing people, they voiced their well, a lot of gratitude, I notice, but also some questions.
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So maybe do you feel responsible for trying to answer those questions? Do you feel responsible for looking out for those who've been attending, you know, Bible studies and stuff like that? Do you feel that weight, responsibility or a little bit? I don't know if it's responsibility or empathy. Yeah, that's probably a better word. Much better. Okay. There's part of me that that cares that I want to help, but not knowing how to.
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Yes. At the moment, maybe. Oh, if I will. Oh, maybe. I feel like I've got a responsibility in terms of the care and compassion for them as individuals. But it's equally not my decision. Well, yes. Yeah. Can you think back on a time in your life where you've been in this position before, in terms of something ending, not knowing what's next?
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Maybe when I finished uni. Yeah. Not quite the same thing. And how did you deal with that as you come through that bit? I think coming through that it was trying few different things, seeing what works or seeing what didn't. But at the same time, when I finished uni, I had less responsibilities, financial responsibilities, family responsibilities, and then I could just live with my parents for a bit and that was okay.
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So you just you, you basically just did the next good thing the next day. The next good. Yeah, yeah. Do the next right thing. If we talk that we talk about that for. Yeah. And I think it's present too. Yeah. Is that what that's from. Yeah. Yeah. It's also. What else did I see that. Do you know where it's writing?
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In Little Fires? Everywhere. It's not quite so, Kitty. That was quite an intense, intense drama with Reese Witherspoon. Oh, yes. Yeah. And they do a whole thing on that. The next thing you do. To the next good thing this morning. And it's funny that we're having this conversation today because I feel like I've had some realisations today about how I feel about things.
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Because this morning we had a Bible study. Plexus Bible study. And we talked about feeling secure which it was almost after the Bible study. I thought part of my security is when I have a purpose, you've got security. And knowing what you need to do. Whereas maybe recently that security and that purpose has been questioned and has affected my motivation.
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And outlook I mean it's destabilising isn't it. Yeah. Yeah I mean this morning was a rare morning where my daughter was staying at her grandparents last night. So this morning she wasn't there. I was like what do I do? It's like normally my purpose is to go sort her out, give her breakfast, blah, blah, blah. I'll take you somewhere, look after her.
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Whereas this morning I didn't had that purpose and I was like, oh, myself just lying there like, right, what do I do? Let's like that. What we've talked about when we've asked people that motivation is what motivates you to get good in the day. For you it's your little girl. This will be your first. Like you said sense of purpose when those things are not there.
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You know to make you think about what your motivation is then. Yeah. Which is and that today harder harder than normal at the moment. Yeah. I'm not saying that I'm not motivated. I am I don't. Have. I'm not saying that I don't care about things, but it's because. Yeah, you you put everything into what you do. It's not what is.
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You don't just do things as a job. You put your character behind it and your heart behind it. And when those things that you've pulled all those things into things, I said things twice that, I mean, you can take it personally. Okay. Yeah. Because you don't just turn up for a job, tap on a keyboard, go home.
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And that's it. And I know I mean it's horrible. It's really horrible and unsettling to go through a time where it's decisions are made for you that have a massive impact on your life. It's really it's worrying. It's I think what I, what I didn't say before is we.
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For listeners are probably thinking like, what does that mean for Paul's check in? Oh yeah. And this podcast, I guess the answer is we don't know at the moment where we can find the answers. We're still going to witter on what we're allowed. We are indeed. So what is this phase? Yeah. Well, we know we didn't turn up on pirate radio.
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Oh, yeah. Still, I think we'll get a viral podcast. But, yeah, I mean, you're kind of in the unknown at the moment. And it's, it's an unknown where some things are known and some things are not. And some things are so weird or position or it a now an unknown or an unknown known without a certainty of when the known is.
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Yeah. You've gone back that riddle. Faith wise you know. And you're sure. And you certain? Yeah. Is that, like the human element of it? Well, I think I am. I think I know what I'm saying.
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But then that's the. Do you know, do you know who God is? Yeah. Oh. So are you certain that he's got you? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know his piece? Yeah. Yeah. So those things, you know. It's all the human stuff. But you're waiting on other people. The, the responsibilities of life. Where you've got to pay bills and stuff.
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They're the uncertainties. Yes. But that's where you, that's why you have to live. It is indeed. It's trying to. Yeah. And it's not just me living it as well. No. Like it's not. No. In terms of it's not just me on the team. It's not just me and my family. It's not just me. It's not just me on the podcast.
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Yeah. So. But enough about me. How are you? Yeah. Yeah. It's been a tough few weeks. Really? It's. I'm only really, like, hard. I'm. I don't know, really. I think that what I was saying earlier about just being on a loop of worry and anxiety. But there's hope. Because I, I'm starting to see a break in it, which is good.
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Yeah. I see you talking about what's your purpose? So I, I spent a lot of this week.
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The I'm trying to build this new project, which I've got other people on board with, but it's at that stage of I've got to convinced them to really go for it. Whereas normally. So like with act ten or if I've been writing a show or script or whatever, I've been asked to do it. So. And I've got about been given scenes, I've been given projects to, to work on.
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So that is my purpose. Whereas this, it's coming from me and you creating your own purpose. Yeah. And it's really kind of a again it's a very to very insecure about it. I feel really insecure about like practically whether I can do it. But I feel like you set the pace and know that there's something in it.
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That it's a way forward with it. Then I switch to oh man I'm going to be found out as being a like a complete psychic doing this and you know, imposter syndrome and all that kind of stuff. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah it would be a lot easier if someone had said to me, right, we want you to create that for this.
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Do be six weeks of workshops of this. Yeah. Okay. I can do that with stuff that I like. Yeah. I really do believe it's the right next step. Are you able to share more about what the step is? Yeah. It might sound a bit. That's part of it that I can't say publicly. It's not like I'm not in my sex.
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It's just there's the businesses involved and money involved. I can't really talk about the moment, but one element of it is I think I've talked on the podcast before about working with people with dementia and Alzheimer's. So I'm setting up a, I can say is a project, but it's an ongoing project that will be happening locally, where we, use story to work with people with dementia and those who care for them, because it's not just for this reason, but one element of care for people with dementia and Alzheimer's is, saying if they go into hospital or into respite care or something, they will also work with like a one page story of
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that person so that the people who are providing care know a bit about them, what they like, their family, the background, what they don't like, ways that they communicate. So when they see someone page. So it's used kind of like for, care services and NHS. So it's that element of it in terms of story. But my main thing is trying to bring together so it will happen in the heart of where I live in one of the streets that a where the chop.
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So and the reason to that is because we want to build a community or build a sense of community for people who already live here. But when I have, dementia and Alzheimer's, the impact of space, social connection and community is massive. It's really, really effective and very positive. And we want them still, you know, to like they belong and they are part of community.
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So physically doing these workshops in the heart of where I live, and we basically in these sessions just kind of encourage them to share somehow their life story or get them to talk or, get them to reminisce. So particularly with Alzheimer's, people who have it can struggle to have new memories because that part of the brain is where the damage is.
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But they will often be able to remember way, way, way back. So it's creating a space and opportunity for them to share. Way, way back. And in the hope is it gives them a voice. It helps them to know that their story matters and for the people who come with them, like their carers or their family members, a hope again is one that they will be other people in their position, but also positively impact the relationship between the carer and the person with dementia.
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To kind of strengthen bonds between them, if they, you know, they might find out something about them they never knew in these sessions. So it's done. It's done through various kind of techniques and of storytelling using the senses, visual stuff, sight and sound. So yeah I that's a I don't know if that's made any sense as sound.
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It's very exciting. It's exciting, but it's also quite daunting. Yeah. I mean, I think there's probably a lot of people listening to this who think that sounds something that I would love or need. So I and this is you. Yeah. This is you. You've come up with this idea. Is that right? Yes. So I guess in terms of the normally people ask you to do a script and from the get go, you know, that they invest it because they've asked you to do something.
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Yeah. I guess it's you trying to justify your own idea, which is often harder than justifying somebody else's idea. Yeah, because it's about believing in yourself. Which you clearly do believe it. It. But it's believing that you're the right person and the other people will believe in you. Does that make sense? Yeah. And that's. Yeah, it does make sense.
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And I. I didn't mean to tell you how you should feel. I see I did it gave the wrong. That's how I feel for you anyway. There you go. No, I relate to what he said. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Or maybe it was me saying that you should. You should believe in yourself. Should believe that people will think it's a good idea because it's interesting.
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It's kind of it's not come out overnight this idea. But you could root this idea, right. Right. Back to when I first started. Which is I first started your work learning. No I started like teaching acting. It goes way, way back or even in some sense when I start performing so well, not my performing. I did solo stuff and then I would write stupid stories and go around the country and retell them and act and.
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But what I mean is, it goes way, way back because it's the power of story people. Story people, stories have always I've seen how it how it the power of it. I've seen how it's helped people to feel less lonely or help people with their confidence or giving them a voice. And that's what I wanted to do in this next bit, of, of work, because everyone has a story and it's I think it's important that those are heard, but also they're treated well.
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So when I doubt whether it's the right thing, I, I try now to consciously think back, okay, I've got thousands of examples of where story has made a difference. And I think yeah okay. This is doable. This is possible. I know if I come say like I've been in the venue where I'm going to be doing it, I've been stood in there and there have been complete strangers in that place chatting to my friend who runs it.
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They don't know me, but they've been talking about, you know, we want somewhere to to go or, you know, I've got a relative who need support and so I, I think, yeah. Okay. Yeah. This needs to happen here. This is the right place. Because people are asking without even knowing that it's possibly going to happen. Is it something that's just going to happen in this place.
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Or is this like the first iteration of it. It's the first kind of version of it. Yeah. The hope is that, you know, I mean the the workshops are there, so they can be done anywhere. But by doing it locally, part of the whole local focus is to so the people don't have to commit to it, but it will be available once a week, at the same time, at the same place.
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So it can build familiarity and that sense of belonging. So although yeah, the me to, you know, be able to be delivered in other places. Yep. Yeah. The one of the main focuses at the start is to create a sense of community. And that's hard to do if you just go in, parachute in and do some workshops and jog out again.
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But yeah yeah yeah, yeah. What I was thinking was, I can imagine there's people listening to this who would love to be part of it and couldn't get to where you are. There is definitely scope for it. There is scope but this is the first step and you're getting it right. Yeah. You care about it more than just.
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Yeah. Splash it out. Yeah. Yeah. And it's more it's more about the community element. Yeah. Which is 100% the right thing. Yeah. I'm guessing that you believe that this is something that God has put on your heart. Yeah. For sure. And through that you've seen the context and you've adapted it for this specific context in this place. And I've had a realisation that it's like you said, you've had a realisation that is the perfect place for this.
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And that's why you're doing it. What's all those things? Correct. But yeah, but that doesn't. That's not to say that I've not felt real insecurities about it. And I think that that's and that maybe maybe. Yeah, we talked about the fact that it's it, it's tied up in the fact that I've got to try and pitch it. But I think more than that is because I have had my confidence, not massively, in the last few years.
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So it's also about putting myself in a position where I could, you know, be working full time again and, yeah, I desperately want to. And it's my aim. That doesn't mean to say that. Yeah, I'm not insecure about it. Yeah. Yeah. And you talked about a bit about that more on the last episode. As often you say, if you've not heard that listeners go check that one out as well.
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So, Sam, here's a question. Has checking in helped you or is it made you more thoughtful? Yes. To both. Yeah. It's helped me be more thoughtful. I think it's helped me articulate it to myself as well as to other people. And you're in it. We've talked about that way. You're right in the middle of it at the moment.
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Yeah. And I think often inside your head, often inside my head you feel like things make sense. And then when you come to say them out loud you realise. Does it actually make sense. Or is it just my head. I mean quite often. Yeah. It still makes sense in my head. Not allowed but I get that all the time.
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The act of saying it out loud or articulate out loud changes the process of making sense of things. And I guess it's the things that don't make sense in my head. I mean, to talk about them out loud help makes them make more sense. Do you think they don't make sense in your head because they are stuck in that?
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There's no answers. There's always that you stuck. You've got the question, but that goes on a loop. I don't know. Yes. Do you ever do that? Like with prayer, you know, when you start praying and you just there's, like, so much going on in your head? Yeah. Just don't know how to say what you'd say or what you need to say.
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And then what happens when you in that position. Your mind wanders and you start praying. Right. Okay. Or continue. Oh. Oh my mind on this. I don't know if I stop praying but I stop intentionally having a conversation and just thinking about things. Does that make sense? Yeah. And that there's not only I, I even this morning that happened to be,
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But what's happened a lot during this time. But then this morning again, I consciously thought, it's okay. Just it's about being having time with God. If you ain't got the right words, you don't know what the problem is. Enos. I might be encouraging lazy praying. I think maybe I don't that. But just the thing of you know, God kind of just, just staying there, not rushing away from that.
00:33:27:14 - 00:33:54:26
Yeah. Maybe it's the, you know, God help it make sense to me. Yeah. Because I guess even being in the presence of people is helpful. So being in the presence of God. Is also helpful. Yeah. And some of my favourite people are those people they, you spend time with but you don't really say anything of any. Just you just they're just.
00:33:54:28 - 00:34:18:27
Being honest. Yeah. I think one of the things that came out of this morning in the Bible study talking about safety and security, one of the ideas came out was this security in community and family. And it's not necessarily any community. It's the ability to just be yourself. And I think we've talked about that before have we.
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It doesn't matter what in the presence of those people. You can just be you and not have to pretend to be something or not have to pretend to be happy, not have to pretend to be a certain feeling. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, no, not my. My hope would be that other people feel that when they're with us.
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It's. Yeah. Checking in with folks. Check in. Yeah. Yeah. If you j got any music. Got any. Got any music. I was just going to ask you that. I just tell you what. Since last time I've been listening to Noah Con. Oh, yeah. And yeah, like you say, I just like the storytelling and the honesty in the writing.
00:34:58:19 - 00:35:19:11
It. It's got really nice voice as well. Yeah. I've got a little playlist of, indie folk. Okay. Other artists who do the same thing. You got one? Yeah. Well, in terms of keeping on track. So out of nowhere, I had some thing on shuffle the other day, and I kind of was transported back to the 1990s. Okay.
00:35:19:12 - 00:35:49:28
I'm talking 1990s Christian music here. When delirious first started. You know delirious don't you. Delirious. Yeah. Yeah. And Smith. Martin. Smith. Yes. Dougie. And he's done a long album recently with somebody I can't remember who it was, but they were singing over the mountains in the hill a single be left forever. But you know when you like, listen to something and I, I can't I can be a bit of a worship snob.
00:35:49:29 - 00:36:09:11
Okay, well, not a snob. A-list worship. I just thought that is a really good song. Why haven't I listened to it for so long? This old 90s? Yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah. What about you've got the embarrassing ones. Oh, that's nasty.
00:36:09:13 - 00:36:33:09
It's not embarrassing. But the other day, I was having tea. Just talking about. Talking about what songs we're going to sing on Sunday as worship songs. And my daughter, who is to start singing, she just, just randomly comes out with good bye yesterday. And I looked at each other like, wow. Well, well. And then I kept singing the song and she kept finishing the lines.
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I was like, how do you know these songs? It was.
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Wow. So I start embarrassing. It's a proud moment. Yeah. Very good. Well, we were talking about other worship songs, and she just decided that that was a good one, that we should sing. So I start singing. Maybe you should listen to her. Maybe we should. My embarrassing one. What I know is embarrassing. If you heard of a guy called Steven Sanchez.
00:36:54:23 - 00:37:16:19
No, I like. I like his voice. I like style it slightly. Not old sounding. Slightly old. I say like old style. Let me find you one. That will make sense if you listen to it. This video has a very 50s vibe. Yes, that's what I mean. Like old school rock and roll. Yeah. I really like the album.
00:37:16:22 - 00:37:45:10
New album. He's got quite distinct voice, just like Hairspray vibes. Yeah, I really like that new album that was out this week. It's really good. Would I mind that blown out another people hearing? Probably not. Who's checking? I'm just around is off, I think. It's been nice to have a chat, Gracie, hasn't it? Check in with each other without the pressures of having to talk about certain subjects that we put on ourselves, of course, which we don't mind doing, but,
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